09/08/2026
“Why is ego bad?”
News flash it isn’t...
until it is. ;;)
Below: An exchange I was having with some religious type as it pertains to the subject/context of this page, or my assertions about 'Awakening'. As always, as a Serious Seeker: take from it what you want/need and leave the rest for ‘others’ to cry over ;;)
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> Why would the ego be any bad?
I never said it was.
> Any concept is ego in the end.
No they are not.
What do you mean "in the end"? The end of ..what? Eternity!? ;;)
You are probably referring to some intellectual conclusion or some kind of logically ascertained premise 'in here'.
That’s not ‘in the end’ that’s ‘in the mind’ ;;)
Do you see?
> Why would we strive for no story? Why not find a way to make a good story?
I never said: "don’t strive for a good story." There’s nothing wrong with what, from the awakened perspective, is called ‘sleeping’ (not the greatest term for sure btw) at all.
The dream is fine
…UNTIL IT ISN’T.
When ‘it isn’t’ you are going to feel it. Every damn day. THAT should bring you here, looking for answers as to what TF is happening to you. Or maybe it brings you to some other sub ...or you wander into some silly satsang session, whatever..
point is: The seeker is ‘born’.
Something has 'awakened'. And
so the search begins.
If you are NOT here (or engaged some place else with a similar context) because of THAT; you are simply window shopping and you will possibly even do more harm than good to your not so seriously seeking self. Because if you don’t have ‘the bug’ …that ‘splinter in your mind’ then you are here for one reason: because you BELIEVE there is something ‘to get’, or so you think.
Maybe there are some nice lifestyle goodies or some divine wisdom goodies to get out of it. Right? ;;)
But ego is 'here' too, making sure you get something out of it. Or, again, SEEM to get it, because, ultimately, there is nothing to get.
Ego ITSELF doesn’t even have any real substance to it.
But don’t take MY word for it. Investigate!
Point is, that you are still not ready to nuke your entire (so called) life, to get rid of Self for good. To AWAKEN. You are on some spiritual safari trip at best. ;;) You are STILL looking for a new costume.. not for a can of gasoline and a box of matches.
So to your point: sure. Ego is fine (I guess).
Unless you want to awaken. Then you have to study it in all its aspects. Dispassionately. Relentlessly. Because it will do everything it can to keep you from sniffing out its bag of dirty tricks designed to keep you from opening your eyes for real ;:)
Ego and fear are your roommates.
While one is chatting with you in the kitchen the other is asleep in your bed. Or vice versa.
Ego will go as far as kill you if that is what it takes for it to continue on for a few moments longer. Ego’s final dramatic act is to fake its own death. AKA 'Enlitenment' ;;)
You don’t want to end up as a cartoon on a cartoon graveyard. Or die with a huge questionmark as your tombstone. THAT is what awakening is all about.
> Even Jesus talked about creating a good story!
If there was such a man he too was misguided at that point still.
Go ahead. Be satisfied with stories. See where it leads you. Certainly not out of this place friend.
Waking up is unfolding stories, unfolding the myth of Self. Not feeding it more candy. That is all that I am saying friend. I am saying it in the context of this thing you seem to be after!
What are YOU saying IN THIS CONTEXT?
“Well Jesus said…” or “read verse so and so, one two three for five section so and so…blah blah”. How are you ‘on topic’ and I am not?
Nah.. ;;)
Anyway, let me ask you this:
How do you know what Jesus even talked about?
No really?
Someone told someone that someone said something right?
How does that work?
It works on account of BELIEF. Yours and ‘others’.
You see, If you cannot know a thing FOR REAL - in your bones - first hand - intimately- the second, Third and fourth best thing is apparently to resort to *believing* in it, no matter how absurd.
I’ll take option 1 over that any day ;;)
I’m not an iconoclast mind you, the Bible has its merits..
few as they are. I’m simply trying to make a point..
We really have no way of knowing but let’s suppose Jesus was real, (I’m fairly convinced there was such a dude) but it would still be some dude saying some s**t back then not unlike you or me now.
How are you going to verify what I claim or Jesus claims if you satisfy yourself with the mere belief or disbelief in it?
Do you see?
> He was all about the kingdom of God. Live lovingly and have faith and the good will come was his teaching.
That’s is all great and dandy friend and if you want to believe that - go right ahead. How am I stopping you from any of it? But, it is still a BELIEF and no belief is true. A belief is just a belief. You don't KNOW something! And in stead of finding out what that is you choose to belief SOMETHING. it presupposes the absence of knowing the truth! Waking up is about becoming true.
Becoming that truth.
Belief is a toxic and dangerous attitude toward reality! After all, if something is really there it doesn't require your belief, and if it's not there - why should you believe in it?
If Jesus was true (or became true) then why should you be satisfied with merely believing in that over becoming true your damn self? Is Jesus somehow more of a man than you? Above you? Or some guru? Are there only a handful of God-men while you are …what? Chop liver? ;;)
The more you start examining how belief truly works how fear works, how it keeps you down and not rises you out of the ashes of illusion and delusion the more you start to stand apart form 'the flock’.
Awakening is FREEDOM from delusion.
The more you REALIZE the truth of what it is I speak of the more you will become 'No longer FROM it'... still in it, sure, but it has been seen how you are in fact not FROM it.
It's not a balloon you pop. It is a balloon turned inside out.
The air is what you are, the inside of the balloon is the vacuum.
I am simply pointing out to you how religion works. How dogma works. Like fools; we all believe , and then someone else gets to control us with it. Rinse and repeat. Behold the age old human condition. It never ends.
Whatever Man is; He will create a society that reflects THAT.
Not the truth of his predicament. A feature not a bug.
It is very effective.
We are in our 100th millennium of it at the very least (if you believe in time still) ;;) I Am simply talking about actual enlightenment in a page about ENLIGHTENMENT. Sue me. ;;)
This may come as a shock to many but spirituality or religion or anthing that ends with ‘ism’ really have nothing to do with any of it.
Contrary to what many will …believe you can be awake in the dream and it is an unimaginably better experience because of it. You'll be "alone with the Gods and the nights will flame with fire" ;;)
It speaks to total dedication to a creative path or a life goal, no matter the personal cost or hardship. Going all the way means facing rejection, hardship, and doubt as a simple test of your grit. Pushing through the pain brings a rare, burning triumph that feels sacred and alive
But I digress.. ;;)
Cheers my friends